【轉載+個人閱後心得】黃蜂新陣容會製造更多問題

原貼:林旋風吧：http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4125018233
翻譯by: @mikezbytt
原文http://www.jeremylintel.com/

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我說…

這篇文章滿多地方都不是那麼的認同，但尊重作者的看法，因為他絕對是個真林蜜，整個陣容我覺得不是險招，也沒太多不妥的地方，因為時間關係，我把我的看法簡單說明一下。

整個陣容，我個人的看法是教練把機會做給林書豪了，對黃蜂這個先發陣容了解的人，就知道他們的節奏是偏慢的，加上黃蜂很注重回防佈陣，因此，在這種情況下，聯盟絕大多數的球隊都會被黃蜂的先發帶慢節奏，也就是會形成出手數變少，命中率變差，上半場就算輸也不會輸的太誇張的。

因為有傑弗森，排上林書豪當先發，看熱身賽就知道已經明顯有衝突了，林書豪有多少精彩傳球都石沉大海了，再看黃蜂這樣的先發陣容，目的不是為了要贏對方多少分，明顯就是要拖住對手，替補反而才是黃蜂可怕的陣容，

理由很簡單，林書豪是先發的能力去打人家的替補，之前跟林書豪搭配最好的球員之一澤勒，都放到替補給林書豪搭擋了，擋拆好手有了。

霍伊斯7呎1吋是聯盟最最高的砲塔，他曾經有單季超過40%的三分命中率，對方的鋒衛要不要出來都難，出來空間被騰出來，不出來沒人防守，他的外線命中率準起來，對手會很頭大的。

至於卡明斯基我曾說過他過去是控衛、得分衛後來愈打愈高就打到中鋒，也就是說他放在3號位也不會覺得怪，至於1、2號位有時候是林書豪、有時候巴頓(2號、3號)或藍伯(2號)都可能，這樣的陣容，光是身高就足以守死別人的先發，何況是對方的替補，怎麼看黃蜂的替補陣容都比先發還先發。

先發根本就是上去擋子彈的，先發的節奏只是拖住，而不是為了贏球，想要拉開比分就是靠替補，這樣的陣容怎麼看都覺得林書豪、澤勒等人根本就是偽替補。

很多球迷一直卡在「先發」這個名稱上，我覺得林書豪上陣的時間應該會有30分鐘上下，而且目前沃克跟傑弗森無法換掉，教練只好用這樣的方式來變相取代，重點就是林書豪能力太好，放在什麼位置跟誰搭配都可以。其它後衛群明顯就不行了，以對球隊最有利的方式就是這樣安排。

看懂比賽的人都看出來了澤勒到先發後，明顯水土不服，但跟林書豪就打的虎虎生風，也難怪他不想當先發，因為先發根本無法顯現他的價值，他知道跟林書豪搭配才能突顯出他的價值。不然誰會有先發不當的，權衡之下澤勒就很聰明。

最後在分享新聞中，Ivy分享了林書豪在對上熱火前接受訪問時，問到對於首發還是替補的問題，他說：『我其實不擔心這個問題，雖然每位球員都想首發，但最重要的還是球隊利益，所以無論首發還是替補，我完全不介意」

 

以下是受訪影片(感謝Ivy提供)

 

 

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Hornets Starting Hairston AND Williams CausesMore Problems than it Solves
Postedon October 26, 2015 by JLintel

Thelatest news from Charlotte Observer is that Cliff may go with the surprisingstarting unit of Walker, Batum (SG), PJ Hairston (SF), Al Jefferson and he’s still undecided betweenZeller or Williams for the PF position. To me, if he goes with Williams overZeller for PF, that’s making a big mistake even WORSE. The starting lineup ofWalker/Batum/Hairston/Williams/Jefferson has too many players playing out ofposition and it doesn’t leave enough time for our stacked Power Forwardposition.
來自《夏洛特觀察者》最新消息，客服可能會排出令人吃驚的先發陣容：沃克，巴圖姆（SG），P.J.海爾斯頓（SF），Al-傑弗森和他未定的澤勒/威廉姆斯2選1大前鋒。對我來說，如果他用威廉姆斯頂掉澤勒出任PF，那將會犯下大錯甚至更糟。先發陣容由沃克/巴圖姆/海爾斯頓/威廉姆斯/傑弗森組成會有太多球員打錯位，而且沒有足夠的時間留給我們堆積的大前鋒群。

BeforeI delve deeper into why I think starting Hairston AND Williams is a mistake, Iwant to say that overall I think Cliff is a solid coach. To me, he’s the bestcoach Lin has had (and I’m including D’Antoni, who I’ve never been really highon). I know some Lin fans hesitate to question Cliff’s coaching, since he’streated Lin so well so they don’t want to “rock the boat”. But since Cliff isclearly struggling with the decision of who to start and likely questioninghimself, I don’t see questioning Cliff’s starting lineup as “rocking the boat”or any sign of disrespect towards Cliff. I think even after Cliff makes hisdecision, he’s going to continue to question whether or not he made the rightdecision.

在我深挖為什麼我認為海爾斯頓和威廉姆斯先發是個錯誤之前，我想說總的看來我認為客服是個靠得牢的教練。對我而言，他是有史以來最善教Lin（還有德安東尼，我從未真正推崇過他）。我知道有些林密會猶豫是否質疑客服，因為他對Lin很好所有他們不想“找麻煩”。但自從清楚客服一直糾結於敲定先發，我就不認為質疑客服的先發陣容是“找麻煩”或是對他的不敬。我認為即使客服做出決定，他還是會持續地遭受質疑無論他的決定是否正確

So me questioning Cliff’s startinglineup is simply a way of exercising critical thinking as an observer of thegame and bringing up issues that Cliff maybe wrestling with. It’s not at allabout disrespecting coach Cliff. Just because I like Cliff, it doesn’t mean I’mgoing to blindly agree with everything he does. I’m someone who enjoysanalyzing things, so naturally, I’m going to analyze and think critically aboutkey decisions that are made by the coach, regardless of whether or not Isupport the coach overall. I want to be clear in stating that Jeremy Lin madethe right decision when he decided to join the Hornets, so me questioningCliff’s starting lineup doesn’t mean I’m questioning whether or not Hornets isthe right team for Lin. Now that this caveat is out of the way, let’s get tosome reasons why I think starting Hairston AND Williams is a big mistake.
所以我對客服先發陣容的質疑是作為比賽觀察者正常的批評，帶來的問題是客服應該承受的。與不敬無關，就因為我喜歡客服，但不意味著我要盲目接受他所做的一切。我是個熱衷分析的人，很自然，我要分析並批判地思考教練所做的關鍵決定，無論我是否支持他。我想清晰說明JLin決定加入黃蜂是個正確決定，所以我質疑客服的先發不意味著我質疑黃蜂是否Lin的正確選擇。既然這些清楚了，就來說說為什麼我認為先發海爾斯頓和威廉姆斯是個大錯誤

If Cliff goes with Williams over Zeller, he has TWO guys in the starting lineupplaying out of position: Batum and Williams. Also, we three three really goodPower Forwards fighting for time off the bench: Zeller, Kaminsky andHansborough. I think we need at least one true PF in the starting lineup, justbecause of the sheer strength the Hornets have in that position. Why wouldn’tyou make sure you maximize your PF spot, since you’ve got a lot of talent inthat position? It’s just insane to me that Cliff may even think not to have atrue PF in the starting position, because he’s got so many of them he can putin that position. Why have Williams play out of position? This is made evenmore insane when you think about the fact that we lost MKG, who’s a SmallForward and need a solid Small Forward, which is what Batum is! To me, theobvious silver lining to MKG going down is that Batum (a big key for theHornets) gets to go back to playing his natural position. So, instead ofletting Batum go back to his natural position, you’re going to replace MKG withPJ Hairston and force Williams to play PF? To me, that’s a jumbled mess. Ithink its a big mistake to have one of your big key players (Batum) pay out ofposition.

如果客服用威廉姆斯而不是澤勒，他就有2個先發打錯位：巴圖姆和威廉姆斯。同時，我們3個優秀的大前鋒要在板凳上爭時間：澤勒，卡明斯基和漢斯布魯。我認為我們至少需要一個真的PF出任先發，就因為那個位置黃蜂絕對有實力。為何你不能最大限度使用你的PF，而這個位置你有很多天賦？在我看來這太愚蠢，也許客服甚至考慮過不用正牌PF當先發，因為有太多人可以充當這個位置。為何要讓威廉姆斯打錯位？這更加瘋狂當你想到我們已經失去MKG，他是個SF而需要一個可靠的SF，那真是巴圖姆！顯而易見輓救失去MKG的希望是巴圖姆（黃蜂的大關鍵）打回他的本來位置。然而，不讓巴圖姆回到他的本位，卻用P.J.海爾斯頓代替MKG，而迫使威廉姆斯打PF？我看，這正是亂七八糟！我認為讓你的關鍵球員之一（巴圖姆）打錯位是大錯特錯

Cliff’s reason for starting Hairston isthat he thinks Hairston can be a defensive stopper. I think this is where Cliffhas really confused himself. He’s still trying to hold onto last season’sHornets strategy, rather than completely embracing the new look Hornetsoffense. This season’s Hornets isn’t going to win on defense, they’re going towin on their offense. Their defense just needs to be adequate. Missing MKG thisseason is totally different from missing MKG last season, so why get hung up ontrying to find an MKG replacement by putting Hairston in there as a very poorman’s MKG? I think this is where Cliff is getting too cute and over thinkingthings. Being too smart for his own good by trying to piece everything togetherlike a puzzle.
客服先發海爾斯頓的理由是他認為海爾斯頓是個防守悍將。我想這就是客服昏庸的地方。他一直試圖抱著上賽季的策略，而完全不接受黃蜂面貌一新的進攻。本賽季黃蜂不再會因防守贏球，他們會用他們的進攻取勝。他們的防守只需要勝任即可。本賽季沒有MKG與上賽季沒有MKG完全不同，所以為何還要念念不忘試圖尋找MKG，讓海爾斯頓去做可憐的MKG替身？我認為這是客服聰明過頭想多了。自作聰明面面俱到最後一團糟

With this insane lineup, of Walker/Batum/Hairston/Williams/Jefferson, you havea lot of talent on the bench and you have a lot of guys potentially playing outof position. With this lineup, I don’t even know what happens to the secondunit. Does Lamb play SG or SF? Does Lin play SG or PG? If PG, then what happensto Brian Robberts? Is Kaminsky going to get much playing time? And Hansborough,who has been great in the preseason as a rebounding machine and somewhat of arim protector, is not going to see the floor, which is unfortunate. With thisunit, the only easy substitution is Hawes coming in for Jefferson. Everythingelse is a jumbled mess, since you got a lot of guys playing out of position.Why create so much havoc, simply because you want a poor man’s defensivestopper to replace missing MKG, which is probably the LEAST important issue forTHIS new look Hornets team to solve?

這荒唐的先發，沃克/巴圖姆/海爾斯頓/威廉姆斯/傑弗森，你還有很多天才坐在板凳上，而你卻用很多傢伙打錯位。這樣的先發，我甚至不知道2陣會發生什麼。蘭姆打SG還是SF？Lin打SG還是PG？如果PG，B-羅伯茨幹什麼？卡明斯基還能得到多少時間？漢斯布魯，季前賽表現出色，是個籃板機器和籃筐守護神，將不能在場上看到，多麼不幸。在這個單元，只有霍伊斯可以輕鬆替補傑弗森。所有的事都混亂不堪，因為你讓很多人都打錯位。為何要製造這麼多災難，就因為你想要一個可憐的防守人替代缺失的MKG——這本該是這個全新的黃蜂最後一個要解決的問題？

I think coach is way over-thinkingthings. In my view, the rotation is very simple:
我認為教練要3思。我的觀點，輪換非常簡單：

Starters: Walker/Lin/Batum/Zeller/Jefferson
Second Unit: Roberts/Lamb/Williams/Kaminsky/Hawes
Third string: Troy Daniels, Aaron Harrison, PJ Hairston, Tyler Hansborough
先發：沃克/Lin/巴圖姆/澤勒/傑弗森
2陣：羅伯茨/蘭姆/威廉姆斯/卡明斯基/霍伊斯
3線：仙丹，A-哈裡森，P.J.海爾斯頓，T-漢斯布魯

Another way you can look at the rotation is thus:
另外你可看以下輪換：

PG: Walker/Roberts/Lin
SG: Lin/Lamb/Daniels/Harrison
SF: Batum/Williams/Hairston
PF: Zeller/Kaminsky/Hansborough
C: Jefferson/Hawes

PG：沃克/羅伯茨/Lin
SG：Lin/蘭姆/仙丹/哈裡森
SF：巴圖姆/威廉姆斯/海爾斯頓
PF：澤勒/卡明斯基/漢斯布魯
C：傑弗森/霍伊斯

In this scenario, you only have ONEplayer who’s playing out of position: Jeremy Lin. And this player has shownthat he can play shooting guard very well. To me, it’s more important to haveyour guys play in their natural position than probably anything else. Evensuperstars, like Carmelo Anthony, suffer when they’re forced to play out ofposition. I think playing out of position is probably the most detrimentalthing to a player’s game. With Cliff’s projected starting unit, he’s got somany guys playing out of position, which is a huge mistake to me.
在這個方案中，只有一個人打錯位：JLin。而他已經展示他打SG也非常出色。在我看來，讓你的球員打他們的本位比什麼都重要。即使超級巨星，如小甜瓜，強迫打錯位也一塌糊塗。我認為打錯位對一個球員的比賽可能是最大的傷害。客服設計的先發陣容，他讓如此多的人打錯位，在我看來是巨大的錯誤

Hopefully, Coach Cliff will realize his mistake sooner rather than later. Butit looks like no matter what Cliff seems to be adamant about Lin coming off thebench, which is a big mistake and a shame. As much respect as Cliff has forLin’s game, he STILL doesn’t see Lin as the best player on the team. Because ifhe did, then Lin would be starting. In every example not involving Jeremy Lin,the best player on the team starts no matter what! So the fact that Cliffappears to be adamant about not starting Lin tells me that Cliff doesn’t seeLin as clearly the best player on the team.

希望，教頭客服能盡早認識到他的錯誤。但看來無論怎樣，客服都堅定地讓Lin打替補，這是一個巨大的錯誤和恥辱。無論客服有多尊重Lin的比賽，他還是看不到Lin是球隊中最好的球員。因為如果他看得到，Lin就能先發。所有的情況下毫無疑問都是隊中最好的球員先發，只有Lin例外。所以客服固執地不讓Lin先發只能告訴我們客服沒有清楚地看到Lin是球隊中最好的球員

Cliff is not starting Lin, because helikes Lin with Hawes, Lamb and Zeller. But Lin can play with anyone–especiallynow that Lin has a deadly jumper–so to me I think you want the unit ofWalker/Lin/Batum on the floor as much as possible. So you should start thatunit, not just close with that unit. There’s no question to me that Cliff willclose games with Walker/Lin/Batum. With Lin coming off the bench, I expect himto get around 28 minutes, which is a HUGE mistake. Lin should be getting 34+minutes for Hornets to maximize their potential. There is still a chance Linmay be able to break the 30 minute mark. If so, then one could argue that mayeven be better than Lin actually starting, IF it means Lin will be the primaryball handler when he’s on the floor. We’ll see how it all shakes out.
客服不先發Lin，因為他喜歡Lin和霍伊斯，蘭姆及澤勒組合。但Lin能與任何人配合——特別是現在Lin擁有了致命的跳投——所以在我看來，我認為你想要沃克/Lin/巴圖姆盡可能多的留在場上。所以你應該先發這個組合，而不僅用這組合終結比賽。對我來說沒有問題，客服用沃克/Lin/巴圖姆終結比賽。Lin從板凳出發，我預期他能得到28分鐘左右，這還是個錯誤。Lin應該得到34+分鐘為黃蜂最大化他們的潛能。Lin還有機會突破30分鐘限制。如果這樣，有人又會說這甚至比Lin實際先發還好，是否這意味著當他在場上時能成為主控。我們拭目以待

No matter what happens to Lin, though, I think this crazy starting unit withHairston and Williams is a big mistake overall for causing too many guys toplay out of position and not fully utilizing the position where the Hornetshave the most talent: Power Forward. This crazy starting lineup is also goingto suffer against good teams, since it’s not powerful enough offensively tomake up for its defensive liability. With the starting lineup ofWalker/Lin/Batum/Zeller or Kaminsky/Jefferson, your offense is going tooverwhelm and more than make up for your defensive liabilities. By the way, Ithink this lineup is just as good or at least not much worse defensively as thecrazy lineup that Cliff appears to be going with for defensive reasons. Again,I think Cliff has himself all turned around, because he’s too fixated onfilling the whole that MKG left (trying to fit all the “old” pieces together,rather than embracing a completely new set of puzzle pieces if that makes anysense).

無論怎麼對Lin，我還是認為用海爾斯頓和威廉姆斯這瘋狂的先發是個大錯，導致很多人打錯位，而且沒有充分利用黃蜂這個位置上的最大天賦：大前鋒。這個瘋狂的先發遇上強隊也要吃盡苦頭，因為沒有強大的進攻火力彌補防守的不足。先發用沃克/Lin/巴圖姆/澤勒或卡明斯基/傑弗森，你的進攻將掩蓋防守的負累。順帶一句，我認為這個陣容一樣好至少沒那瘋狂的陣容——客服以防守為藉口拋出的——那麼糟。再次，我認為客服應回頭是岸，因為他太執著於填補MKG的空缺（試圖拼湊“舊的”碎片，而不是接受全新的拼圖使之更有意義）

With this weak starting unit, Hornetsare likely going to have to fight from behind against good times. This unit isalso going to struggle against big lineups. If I were Ciff, I would considerstarting Hansborough whenever Hornets go up against really big lineups, sinceHansborough is the only one on the team that comes close to being a rimprotector and a rebounding machine. But Cliff appears to be very low onHansborough, probably because Cliff likes to play four out and Hansboroughcan’t shoot. I think most of the time, that strategy is good, but against someteams, I think you can sacrifice spacing for rim protection and rebounding.
用這個羸弱的先發，黃蜂不再會有好日子過。這陣容也無力抗擊（對手）大個陣容。如果我是客服，遇到大個對手我會用漢斯布魯先發，因為漢斯布魯是隊中唯一的籃筐守護神和籃板機器。但客服很低看漢斯布魯，也許因為客服喜歡4號位外打而漢斯布魯不能投籃。我認為這策略大多時間是好的，但對上一些球隊，我認為你可以為保護籃下和搶籃板犧牲空間

Again, I want to stress that I think Cliff is a fine coach overall. I justthink he’s overthinking things and trying to be too cute and creative byplaying too much with the lineups and asking too many players to play out ofposition. Hopefully, he’s open-minded enough to change course if it looks likethis lineup causes more problems than it solves for the Hornets. From what I’veobserved of Cliff so far, he does seem to be pretty open-minded and willing tochange course. But it will likely take him time since he’s going to want tokeep the starting lineup the same for a while. If Cliff goes with the startinglineup of Hairston AND Williams for more than, say, 30 games, then I am nolonger optimistic about the Hornets winning 45+ game and be seeded at number 5in the East. I think with that crazy starting lineup for 30+ games, they’llbarely make the playoffs at the 8th spot. I just hope he realizes his mistakesooner, rather than later and changes course after 10 games. We’ll see.

再次，我想強調我認為客服是個好教練。我只是認為他想的太多，在陣容上玩太多小聰明和創新，而要求太多的球員打錯位。希望，他鬧洞大開改弦易張，了解這陣容給黃蜂帶來的問題比它解決的要多。從我目前對客服的觀察，他似乎腦洞夠大並勇於改錯。但得給他時間因為他想保持一段先發陣容的穩定。如果客服堅持先發海爾斯頓和威廉姆斯超過30場，放話在此，我不再樂觀黃蜂能贏45+取得東區第5的排名。我認為這瘋狂的先發陣容超過30+，他們很難以第8殺入季後賽。我希望他盡早知錯，別遲於10場回歸正道。走著瞧

Regardless of what Cliff does, if Lindoesn’t manage to break the 30 minute mark, which is a very difficult featcoming off the bench, then the Hornets are not going to maximize theirpotential. With Lin playing 34+ minutes a game, I see the Hornets getting the4th seed in the East. This ONLY happens if Lin starts. As a result, I’m lessoptimistic about Hornets’s chances of making a lot of noise in the playoffs nowthat I know Cliff wants Lin coming off the bench. Sure, they’ll make theplayoffs, but they’ll likely be in the 6th to 8th spot. IF Lin comes off thebench with 30+ minutes, then they’ll be in the 5th spot. But, of course,Hornets making the playoffs is already exceeding people’s expectations of them,so this is the problem that we face. No matter what the Hornets do, they’llexceed very low expectations, so looking back no one will see that NOT startingLin and NOT playing Lin 34+ minutes was a big mistake. They’ll think they madethe right decision to have Lin be a spark off the bench.
不管客服做什麼，如果Lin不能得到超過30分鐘的時間，這從板凳出發很難得到，黃蜂就不能最大限度發揮他們的潛力。Lin場均34+分鐘，我看黃蜂可以到東部第4。只有Lin先發這才會發生。因此，既然我知道客服想讓Lin替補，我對黃蜂進入季後賽的叫嚷已不樂觀。確實，他們會進季後賽，但他們可能會排到6-8名。如果Lin板凳出發有30+分鐘，他們會取得第5。但，當然，黃蜂能進季後賽已經超出人們的期望，所以這是個問題我們必須面對。無論黃蜂做什麼，他們將超出非常低的預期，所以回過頭看，沒人會明白無Lin先發，打不到34+分鐘是個大錯誤。他們會認為他們做出了正確的決定，讓Lin做一個板凳上的火花

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