【原文讀者回響】一個死忠尼克派變成林蜜

 

這是一篇從林旋風吧轉載過來的文章，這是之前那篇「一位尼克成癮者轉變為林密的自白」後續的讀者回響，也是滿精彩的。

感謝林旋風吧「吧主」熱情的lychee同意轉載「【原文讀者回響】一個死忠尼克派變成林蜜」。

 

以下是原文讀者回響翻譯

 

Nice piece, Nathan. I’m still nomadding myself.

Martin Flusser

And Martin, it may continue again next year. Lin can opt out of his contract after this year, which was part of his plan: take a year in a system that fits his style and a coach who wants him to play his style. If he has great year, as we expect, he can get a new deal for his true value, not $2.4 mill. Either with Hornets or another NBA team.
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者Martin 留言：

內森，好文！我仍然在自我放逐中。

內森回覆：

馬汀，這也許明年仍將繼續。過了今年，林可以選擇退出他的合同，這是他的計劃之一：花一年的時間在一個適合他球風的體系和一個想要他發揮他的風格的教練。

如果就像我們期待的那樣，他有一個很棒的一年，他就可以得到一份他真實身價的新合同，而不是這區區2.4百萬。不論是待在黃蜂或者是NBA其他的球隊。

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I wish this piece had been longer, I love to hear your story because I can so relate to it (at least in terms of the Lin part).

There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t check your twitter feed (despite not being on twitter). It was the only thing that kept me sane during the BSLA year of living stupidly.

Can’t wait for this season, and for redemption and retribution to all the Lin nay-sayers. Keep up the great posts.
— Kurt Belliveau

Thanks, Kurt. During pre-season and season I will be tweeting a lot before and after games. Right now things are slow. A lot of people, fan sites, tweet about the games but of course with my background, I bring an extra dimension, tweeting both as a fan and an experienced NBA analyst.

Yeah, last year was a bummer. But we got through it. Lin got through it. And now he is with a coach who wanted him specifically for the things he does so well: pass, drive and be aggressive, move the ball in transition, do pick n roll etc. I think he is a lot better player than starting PG Kemba Walker, and predict by mid-season he will be starting either with Kemba, or Kemba will be traded. Lin has an opt-out clause in his contract after this season. So he can opt out and be free agent next summer and find a team that will start him at the kind of money he deserves, or stay with Hornets if Kemba traded. Exciting times ahead. Keep the faith, Kurt.
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者Kurt留言：

我希望這篇文能再長一些，我愛聽你的故事，因為我是如此身陷其中(至少在林的部分中)

我沒有一天不檢查你的推特(除非我不在推特上)對於生活在一堆笨蛋都是狗屎的洛杉磯，這是唯一能夠維持我清醒的事情。

等不及這個賽季了，對所有那些對林持負面評價的救贖與懲罰。加油啊！太棒的文了。

內森回覆：

謝謝，庫爾特，在季前賽和季賽中我都會在比賽之前和比賽之後發很多的推。現在的事情是緩慢的。很多人、球迷網、發推談論比賽但當然是因為我的背景，我帶來了額外的空間角度，以一個球迷和一個有經驗的NBA分析員兩種身分發推。

是啊！去年真不讓人省心。但我們撐過來了。林撐過去了。而現在他是和一個想要得到他的教練特別是因為他在某些方面做的很好：傳球、運球和積極性，球的流動，能夠打擋拆等等。

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nice article, you have been one of JLIn big supporter. i’ve always enjoy your comments during and after the game. i started following JLin pretty much the same time you did.
— ronnie
Thanks, Nathan. You are speaking for my story on Lin’s part. It was always comforting to read your tweets during the frustrating last season.
— – Rocky

Ronnie, Rocky, most Lin followers who aren’t Asian Americans have similar Lin stories. For AAs, Lin was on their radar at Harvard. Same story, but they have the Asian identity thing we non-Asians don’t have. Just love his game, his humbleness. BTW, will be tweeting games even more now that starting times are East Coast, not LA time. I live in upstate NY.
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者ronnie及Rocky留言：

好文章，你是林的主要支持者。我很喜歡你每次賽後點評。我基本上和你一起開始喜歡林的。——羅尼。

謝謝Nathan，那個關於林的故事，跟我的一樣。在上個讓人糾結的賽季，讀你的推文總是讓我感到舒服。——Rocky

內森回覆：
Ronnie，Rocky，很多非美籍亞裔的林密都是有著和林類似的故事。對於美籍亞裔，在哈佛的時候，他們就已經關注林了。相同的故事，不過他們由亞洲人特點，而我們沒有。就是喜歡他的比賽，他的謙遜。另外，現在開始，我們將更早開始發推文，用東部時間，而不是洛杉磯時間。我主宰紐約——Nathan

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Nathan, love your posts on Lin. I am an Asian American sports fan who started following him during his last year in Harvard. I especially get ticked off when Lin detractors tell me that the ONLY reason I follow Lin is because he’s an Asian-American NBA player or athlete. Although this is one of the reasons, IT is definitely not the ONLY reason because I never followed Yao or follow a great Asian tennis player like Kei Nishikori. Like you, I haven’t followed NBA for over 10 years after MJ era. I truly believe Lin can be the Conley level player in NBA if given a better support, although he may never reach the Curry level. Anyway, I will follow your blog during the upcoming season.

— webattorney

Webattorney, guys like us follow Lin because of several reasons. One is his story is unprecedented and so uplifting, it speaks to all of us who just want a chance in life. One part of his story that I’ve never seen is this: he went from the D League to end of Knicks bench, and only one year later he got a $25 million contract. One year. That’s never been done. But Lin is not about money, nor am I. He’s also an inspiring person in the way he lives off the court, and his humbleness should be blueprint for all pro players. I agree, he can be Connelly level, better than Dragic, or Kemba, or Pistons Jackson and more starters. No, he cannot be Curry, because he’ll never shoot as well as Steph, but who can? BUT Lin is a better, more creative passer than Curry. Lin’s passing ability is on the CP3 level, and probably better than Kyrie. As pick n roll PG, he is widely acknowledged to be among the top tier PGs in league.
Funny thing about me as Lin fan. When he exploded off bench in NY, I was shocked mostly because he can from Harvard. In my 19 years in NBA, I saw only a handful of players from Ivy school make it in league. It never even occurred to me to think his story was remarkable because he was an Asian American. I only realized that when writers started talking about that, about the almost zero history of Asians and AA to play in NBA. Long ago, when I covered the Knicks, i learned to be color blind. Just saw players. Today, way more than when I covered, players come from all countries.
I have probably 80 pct AA and some Asians among my followers. Many have felt he was not drafted because he was AA. I don’t think that was reason. If a GM felt a chipmunk could be great player, they’d draft him. I think it was the Ivy thing, not playing against national powerhouses (except UConn, pumped 31 against Kemba’s team). So many PGs to choose from in draft, they lean toward ones who came from major programs. That, and the fact that Lin was slight of build, not very muscular. And then, from my experience I’ve learned only a handful of GMs have any brains. Classic example: Portland GM, because he needed a big center to counter Kareem, chose need over player and bypassed Michael Jordan for Sam Bowie, who was hurt most of his career.
Give me a follow on Twitter, and do leave your own comments on my account. Thanks again.

Nathan
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者webattorney留言：

Nathan， 我喜歡你關於林的帖子，我是亞裔的美國運動米，並且自從他在哈佛就已經注意他了。當林的詆毀者告訴我，我關注林的唯一原因就是因為他是個亞裔美國NBA球員／運動員的時候，我非常生氣。儘管這是一個原因，但是並不是唯一原因，因為我並沒有關注姚明或是著名的網球運動員。

和你一樣，我從喬丹時代結束後，有十年沒有關注NBA了。我完全相信，如果有足夠的支持，林能成為康利級別的球員，儘管他也許永遠達不到庫裡的級別。無論如何，我會繼續關注你的微博的。webattorney

內森回覆：

Webattorney，像我們這樣關注林的人有很多原因的。一個原因是他的故事是空前的，並且是積極向上的。這個說出了我們這些只需要一個機會的人的心聲。他的故事中，我從來沒有見到過的是：他從發展聯盟走到尼克斯板凳，一年之後又拿到了兩千五百萬的合同。一年，根本不可能。

林不是為了錢，我也不是。他的生活方式也很激勵人，他的謙遜是職業球員的典範。我同意他可能到達康利級別，比德拉季奇、或者肯巴，也許還有活塞傑克遜和其他首發要好。是的，他不會成為苦力，因為他從來沒有和斯蒂芬投籃一樣準過，不過還有誰能（這麼準）呢？不過林更好，比庫裡更好的創造性傳球。

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Hi Nathan, i used to love the knicks when starks, ewing, oak were there! Heartbreak i know well as i was also a diehard cleveland browns fan during brian sipe and bernie kosar days… i am also a fellow jlin junkie! Stopped following knicks and nba for years until this kid came along… cool guy and good person imho… will continue that journey with you and fellow jlin fans… keep up the great work!

— kauaiblue

Thank you for all your comments. It’s good to connect with fellow Lin fans. Hope he gets the chance in Charlotte to show NBA what he can really do when used right, as coach Clifford has promised him.
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者kauaiblue留言：

Nathan你好，當斯塔克斯，尤因，奧克利在的時候，我很喜歡尼克斯的！而且在Brian Sipe和Bernie Kosar時期，我還是死忠克利夫蘭Browns（美式足球）的球迷，我知道這個多讓人傷心。同樣我對林書豪（的故事）著迷！在這個孩子的故事出來之前，已經不關注尼克斯和NBA好多年了。

他（林）是一個不錯的傢伙，好人。我會繼續看你和林密們寫的故事，繼續努力！——Kauaiblue

內森回覆：
謝謝你的回應。很高興找到了這些林書豪球迷。希望有機會在夏洛特給NBA展示在正確使用的時候他能做什麼，就像教練克利福德保證的那樣。——Nathan

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Great writing!

— Alex

Great article! I go back to the Knicks with Richie Guerin and Carl Braun. 69 was the best. Seeing a true team play together was the epitome of basketball. The Ewing years were exciting but most of Knick basketball was pretty uninspiring. Then with no one left on the roster, they put in an Asian kid from Harvard?? What a great three weeks!! After Melo, it was wonderful watching this kid Lin score AND make his teammates better. And the Knicks won. When he wasn’t signed by the Knicks, I said enough. 50 years is enough. I bought the NBA package and became a Lin fan. Houston had its moments. I went to Philly and saw him hit over 30. LA, well if I never see BS or Kobe again, I will be happy. Only high hopes for his next stop on his journey (and mine too)

— Marvin M

Good stuff, Alex. When Lin became restricted FA after year with Knicks, they didnt make him an offer, told him to go out and get one and then they’d match. In other words, you over value yourself, get a realistic bid. Well Rockets GM added that poison pill 3d yr worth $14.5, Dolan threw a fit and let him walk FOR NOTHING. As for going way back, I was a senior at Rutgers when we played in the NIT against a team i’d never heard of Southern Illinois Salukis. Everybody kidded: “What’s a Saluki?” Then we found out in the form of Walt Frazier, who lit up the Garden like fireworks.
— Nathan Gottlieb

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讀者Alex、Marvin M留言：

寫得好——Alex

好文章！我是跟著裡奇格林和卡爾布勞恩來尼克斯的。69勝是最好的了，看到一隻真正的球隊一起打球才是籃球的精髓。尤因的時代讓人興奮，不過尼克斯籃球有點沒意思。之後陣容中所有人都走了，然後從哈佛來了一個亞洲小子？？

真是偉大的三周呀，甜瓜之後，看林這個孩子打球，看他讓球隊更好，真是太棒了。而且尼克斯贏。當他沒有簽約尼克斯，我說夠了，50年已經夠長了。我買了NBA包，成為林書豪球迷。

休斯頓有自己的（標誌）時刻。我去費城看他得分過三十。然後洛杉磯，如果我沒有看到斯科特和科比，我可能會很開心。只是希望他的旅程中（也是我的）下一站結果不錯。——Marvin M

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好人，Alex。當林在尼克斯之後成為受限自由球員，他們沒有給他提供合同，而是讓他到外面找一個合同，然後他們會匹配。換句話說就是你自己給自己估價，哪一個現實的合同來。而火箭總經理莫雷給了第三年一千四百萬的毒藥合同之後，多蘭大發脾氣，然後就把他放走了。

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Just found your blog, will follow. My run-on-sentence ramble: Also a nonAsian/AA Linaholic nomad who assesses his skill and potential similar to you, also loves the Christian angle (I’m a Christian lawyer and now US Army chaplain) along witht he underdog story and the continuing-to-have-faith-angle not only of Lin but of his fans (many who think they’re smart analysts of course say Lin doesn’t have the goods to be an NBA starter), never had a favorite NBA team (was an FSU fan for many years) and loved Charlie Ward as a PG for the Knicks (thought he was underrated)…

I enjoy picking winners intuitively and think history will prove us right on Lin (e.g., I saw radiohead at a very small venue in Lawrence KS early on and told Thom Yorke they’d approach Beatles-like status and even they didn’t believe it and they could have if not gone SO artsy, and the day I watched Dan Marino throw in his first start ever told all my Bears fans to laughter with that release I sensed he’d be the greatest passer ever).

I know Gottlieb as a surname is not necessarily Jewish but may commonly be so… how does the Christian angle seem to you whether you are or not? If not religious do you like the “morality” he has that is backed up by character as seen in his treatment over past years, or does it annoy you if Jewish or nonreligious… or are you sheepish about addressing and think it should be irrelevant. Its pretty important to Jeremy’s self identity and understanding of his own narrative as seen from his recent testimony given this week in Beijing.
Thanks, Steve
— Steve Prost

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讀者Steve留言：

剛看到你的博文，會關注的。我的長句自述：也是非亞洲人／亞裔林密部落的一員，自認為自己的技能和潛能和你差不多，也喜歡這個基督教的天使（我是一個新基督教的律師，現在是美軍牧師）和他的小人物的故事，並且我會一直忠於這個天使，不僅僅為了林，也為了他的粉絲們。

（很多人認為以他們聰明的分析來看，林並沒有好到可以成為NBA的首發），從來沒有成為球隊密（原來很多年時FSU球迷）而且喜歡尼克斯的控衛查利沃德（我覺得他被低估）。。。

直覺上，我很喜歡選擇勝利者，而我我覺得歷史會證明我們在林的看法上是正確的（翻譯者說：後面談了一些樂隊的事情，本人不熟悉，括號內不翻了後面也是一些關於宗教的問題，太過於敏感了。我不熟悉。）

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Damn. Lin nomad here as well.
— Chris p

Hey Nathan. I’m a Knicks fan too. I’m from the Philippines and my aunts and uncles are in NY. So I have Knicks and Mets gears and apparels hand me downs from them. I haven’t rooted for any players other than Michael Jordan, Allan Houston and yes Jeremy Lin. When Lin was traded December, I followed him and ever since. I’m not active in twitter and been lurking in JLin sites and I always see your posts. Looking forward to the season and I’m excited that you’ll be twitting a lot during the pre-season and season games. More power.

EJ
— ezekiel jon

I’ve been a Laker fan myself then became a Nomad since I saw this Harvard phenom started to lit teams after teams in NY when from nowhere this guy lit up my team for 38 points and Kobe didn’t even knew him at first or just sarcastically pretending not to know him but since then I got hooked and never been put in rehab yet as a JLIN addict.Nice piece by the way as a Lin fan.Goodluck with us in Charlotte since this is going to be our new hive.
— cdblue10

Great post. Love Lin caude he plays to make his team better.
— Mark

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讀者留言：

靠，有一個林密——Chris P

Hi Nathan， 我也是一名尼克斯球迷。我來自菲律賓，我的叔叔和嬸嬸在紐約。他們給了我尼克斯和大都會的裝備和球衣。除了喬丹，艾倫休斯頓和林書豪之外，我沒有喜歡其他人。當林在12月被交易的時候，開始關注他。

我在推特上並不活躍，在林的網站上也經常潛水，我總是看你的帖子。期待新賽季的到來，很高興你會在季前賽和賽季中發出更多的推文。給你更多的力量吧。— ezekiel jon

以前是湖蜜，現在已經開始流浪了，因為我看到這個哈佛人才在球隊退無可退的時候幫助球隊，而且這個傢伙用38分贏了我的球隊，而科比開始不知道他，而且嘲諷地說不知道他。那個時候我被吸引了，並且到現在為止還沒有戒掉林癮。作為林密，這種方式不錯，夏洛特會會和我們一起交好運，因為這是我們的新巢。— cdblue10

偉大的文章，喜愛林扮演著能夠讓球隊更好的角色。— Mark